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		<title>Reactie op Umbraco, ELMAH (with SQL CE 4.0) and authentication door Umbraco, ELMAH (with SQL CE 4.0) and authentication &#8211; part 2 &#124; kipusoep's tech blog</title>
		<link>http://tech.kipusoep.nl/2012/01/03/umbraco-elmah-with-sql-ce-4-0-and-authentication/comment-page-1/#comment-7519</link>
		<dc:creator>Umbraco, ELMAH (with SQL CE 4.0) and authentication &#8211; part 2 &#124; kipusoep's tech blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jan 2012 10:03:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] my previous blogpost about Umbraco, ELMAH (with SQL CE 4.0) and authentication? After some nice chats with the creator of ELMAH, Atif Aziz, I tried to implement my wishes without [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] my previous blogpost about Umbraco, ELMAH (with SQL CE 4.0) and authentication? After some nice chats with the creator of ELMAH, Atif Aziz, I tried to implement my wishes without [...]</p>
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		<title>Reactie op Umbraco, ELMAH (with SQL CE 4.0) and authentication door kipusoep</title>
		<link>http://tech.kipusoep.nl/2012/01/03/umbraco-elmah-with-sql-ce-4-0-and-authentication/comment-page-1/#comment-7510</link>
		<dc:creator>kipusoep</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jan 2012 09:48:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Awesome, I will have a go with the original ELMAH, static application name (config) and MADAM/custom authorization.
Thanks and when succeeded, I&#039;ll blog again based on your advice and my actions taken :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Awesome, I will have a go with the original ELMAH, static application name (config) and MADAM/custom authorization.<br />
Thanks and when succeeded, I&#8217;ll blog again based on your advice and my actions taken <img src='http://tech.kipusoep.nl/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>Reactie op Umbraco, ELMAH (with SQL CE 4.0) and authentication door Atif Aziz</title>
		<link>http://tech.kipusoep.nl/2012/01/03/umbraco-elmah-with-sql-ce-4-0-and-authentication/comment-page-1/#comment-7509</link>
		<dc:creator>Atif Aziz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jan 2012 09:37:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The applicaton name is really only there for isolation purposes when you&#039;re *sharing* the same back-end store for several applications. However, if every deployment is going to have a private SQL Server Compact database file and only one application&#039;s errors will ever be logged there then using a fixed applicaton name shouldn&#039;t really be an issue.

Authorization is based on user or role membership regardless of how the user was authenticated any you&#039;re already using multiple authentication schemes by having forms and Basic in your solution using [MADAM][1].


  [1]: http://www.raboof.com/projects/madam/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The applicaton name is really only there for isolation purposes when you&#8217;re *sharing* the same back-end store for several applications. However, if every deployment is going to have a private SQL Server Compact database file and only one application&#8217;s errors will ever be logged there then using a fixed applicaton name shouldn&#8217;t really be an issue.</p>
<p>Authorization is based on user or role membership regardless of how the user was authenticated any you&#8217;re already using multiple authentication schemes by having forms and Basic in your solution using [MADAM][1].</p>
<p>  [1]: <a href="http://www.raboof.com/projects/madam/" rel="nofollow">http://www.raboof.com/projects/madam/</a></p>
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		<title>Reactie op Umbraco, ELMAH (with SQL CE 4.0) and authentication door kipusoep</title>
		<link>http://tech.kipusoep.nl/2012/01/03/umbraco-elmah-with-sql-ce-4-0-and-authentication/comment-page-1/#comment-7508</link>
		<dc:creator>kipusoep</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jan 2012 09:14:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, great comment Atif.
Didn&#039;t know I was working with version 2.0, which isn&#039;t finished. I thought I was working with 1.2 SP1 :P
Anyway, I saw the config key applicationName, problem is; I&#039;d like it to be automatically generated on a application base, like it is now.
Else we would have to alter that config property for every website we build, right?

As for the advanced authorization module[3]; the problem is just that .NET doesn&#039;t support multiple authentication modes in one application. And as far as I can tell, that&#039;s still a no-go with the authorization module, or is it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, great comment Atif.<br />
Didn&#8217;t know I was working with version 2.0, which isn&#8217;t finished. I thought I was working with 1.2 SP1 <img src='http://tech.kipusoep.nl/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
Anyway, I saw the config key applicationName, problem is; I&#8217;d like it to be automatically generated on a application base, like it is now.<br />
Else we would have to alter that config property for every website we build, right?</p>
<p>As for the advanced authorization module[3]; the problem is just that .NET doesn&#8217;t support multiple authentication modes in one application. And as far as I can tell, that&#8217;s still a no-go with the authorization module, or is it?</p>
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		<title>Reactie op Umbraco, ELMAH (with SQL CE 4.0) and authentication door Atif Aziz</title>
		<link>http://tech.kipusoep.nl/2012/01/03/umbraco-elmah-with-sql-ce-4-0-and-authentication/comment-page-1/#comment-7507</link>
		<dc:creator>Atif Aziz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jan 2012 08:32:13 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://tech.kipusoep.nl/?p=94#comment-7507</guid>
		<description>You should not have to modify the ELMAH sources for your ELMAH-as-a-sub-app scenario. All ErrorLog implementations like `SqlServerCompactErrorLog` that filter on the application name support a configuration attribute called `applicationName` that you can set explicitly. If none is supplied, ELMAH tries to guess or infer a reasonable one and which is why you are getting something along the lines of `/LM/W3SVC/24/ROOT/elmah`. So you could so configure away as follows:

     

I&#039;m not familiar with Umbraco but if it is plugging into the standard .NET user authorization model ([which it seems it does][1]) then you could also restict access to a particular URL by a user&#039;s role membership. Check out the “[Understanding Role Management][2]” topic on MSDN for more on this and which does not even

For more advanced and dynamic scenarios, ELMAH also supports custom request authorization that can also be coded up and configured orthogonally to a web application. Check out the thread “[Implementing more advanced authorization rules for web-based ELMAH error log Options][3]” in ELMAH&#039;s discussion group for details.

I guess what I&#039;m trying to point out in so many words :) is that there are lots options out there before you should need to fork and maintain a separate code base. There&#039;s nothing inherently wrong with that, but as [Emil Rasmussen][4] pointed out, you lose the benefits of just relying on NuGet packages and standard releases. And BTW, [ELMAH recently switched to Mecurial][5], which is what you seem to have cloned. That repository, however, is major work (or re-work) in progress on version 2.0 and therefore risks being unstable (unless you want to be on the bleeding edge and I&#039;d welcome the testing). All the 1.x code is still there in [the Subversion repository][6]. If you find that you still need to maintain a private fork for Umbraco and would work on something rather stable, I would recommend building on top of the latest official release (1.2 SP1 at the time of writing), which can be found in the [RB-1.2 branch][7]. You can also [download a snapshot of the sources][8] without going through the Subversion repository. There is currently no plan to make any further enhancements to 1.2.


  [1]: http://our.umbraco.org/wiki/how-tos/membership-providers
  [2]: http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/5k850zwb.aspx
  [3]: http://groups.google.com/group/elmah/t/520d9cc827176d85
  [4]: http://noget.net/
  [5]: http://twitter.com/#!/raboof/status/151047397856907264
  [6]: http://elmah.googlecode.com/svn/
  [7]: http://elmah.googlecode.com/svn/branches/RB-1.2/
  [8]: http://code.google.com/p/elmah/downloads/detail?name=ELMAH-1.2-sp1-src.zip</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You should not have to modify the ELMAH sources for your ELMAH-as-a-sub-app scenario. All ErrorLog implementations like `SqlServerCompactErrorLog` that filter on the application name support a configuration attribute called `applicationName` that you can set explicitly. If none is supplied, ELMAH tries to guess or infer a reasonable one and which is why you are getting something along the lines of `/LM/W3SVC/24/ROOT/elmah`. So you could so configure away as follows:</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not familiar with Umbraco but if it is plugging into the standard .NET user authorization model ([which it seems it does][1]) then you could also restict access to a particular URL by a user&#8217;s role membership. Check out the “[Understanding Role Management][2]” topic on MSDN for more on this and which does not even</p>
<p>For more advanced and dynamic scenarios, ELMAH also supports custom request authorization that can also be coded up and configured orthogonally to a web application. Check out the thread “[Implementing more advanced authorization rules for web-based ELMAH error log Options][3]” in ELMAH&#8217;s discussion group for details.</p>
<p>I guess what I&#8217;m trying to point out in so many words <img src='http://tech.kipusoep.nl/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  is that there are lots options out there before you should need to fork and maintain a separate code base. There&#8217;s nothing inherently wrong with that, but as [Emil Rasmussen][4] pointed out, you lose the benefits of just relying on NuGet packages and standard releases. And BTW, [ELMAH recently switched to Mecurial][5], which is what you seem to have cloned. That repository, however, is major work (or re-work) in progress on version 2.0 and therefore risks being unstable (unless you want to be on the bleeding edge and I&#8217;d welcome the testing). All the 1.x code is still there in [the Subversion repository][6]. If you find that you still need to maintain a private fork for Umbraco and would work on something rather stable, I would recommend building on top of the latest official release (1.2 SP1 at the time of writing), which can be found in the [RB-1.2 branch][7]. You can also [download a snapshot of the sources][8] without going through the Subversion repository. There is currently no plan to make any further enhancements to 1.2.</p>
<p>  [1]: <a href="http://our.umbraco.org/wiki/how-tos/membership-providers" rel="nofollow">http://our.umbraco.org/wiki/how-tos/membership-providers</a><br />
  [2]: <a href="http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/5k850zwb.aspx" rel="nofollow">http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/5k850zwb.aspx</a><br />
  [3]: <a href="http://groups.google.com/group/elmah/t/520d9cc827176d85" rel="nofollow">http://groups.google.com/group/elmah/t/520d9cc827176d85</a><br />
  [4]: <a href="http://noget.net/" rel="nofollow">http://noget.net/</a><br />
  [5]: <a href="http://twitter.com/#" rel="nofollow">http://twitter.com/#</a>!/raboof/status/151047397856907264<br />
  [6]: <a href="http://elmah.googlecode.com/svn/" rel="nofollow">http://elmah.googlecode.com/svn/</a><br />
  [7]: <a href="http://elmah.googlecode.com/svn/branches/RB-1.2/" rel="nofollow">http://elmah.googlecode.com/svn/branches/RB-1.2/</a><br />
  [8]: <a href="http://code.google.com/p/elmah/downloads/detail?name=ELMAH-1.2-sp1-src.zip" rel="nofollow">http://code.google.com/p/elmah/downloads/detail?name=ELMAH-1.2-sp1-src.zip</a></p>
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		<title>Reactie op Umbraco, ELMAH (with SQL CE 4.0) and authentication door kipusoep</title>
		<link>http://tech.kipusoep.nl/2012/01/03/umbraco-elmah-with-sql-ce-4-0-and-authentication/comment-page-1/#comment-7504</link>
		<dc:creator>kipusoep</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jan 2012 07:35:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well that&#039;s one option. I&#039;d like to receive RSS notifications from ELMAH for all our websites, so I need to have Basic Authentication working :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well that&#8217;s one option. I&#8217;d like to receive RSS notifications from ELMAH for all our websites, so I need to have Basic Authentication working <img src='http://tech.kipusoep.nl/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>Reactie op Umbraco, ELMAH (with SQL CE 4.0) and authentication door Emil Rasmussen</title>
		<link>http://tech.kipusoep.nl/2012/01/03/umbraco-elmah-with-sql-ce-4-0-and-authentication/comment-page-1/#comment-7503</link>
		<dc:creator>Emil Rasmussen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jan 2012 07:27:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your right about the naming - but I think you know what I mean :-)

I&#039;m still considering the best approach to add proper authentication to Elmah - at the moment we just log on to the production machine, and access Elmah from localhost.

I have subscribed to your RSS feed, so let&#039;s see what happens.

Best regards
Emil</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your right about the naming &#8211; but I think you know what I mean <img src='http://tech.kipusoep.nl/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I&#8217;m still considering the best approach to add proper authentication to Elmah &#8211; at the moment we just log on to the production machine, and access Elmah from localhost.</p>
<p>I have subscribed to your RSS feed, so let&#8217;s see what happens.</p>
<p>Best regards<br />
Emil</p>
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		<title>Reactie op Umbraco, ELMAH (with SQL CE 4.0) and authentication door kipusoep</title>
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		<dc:creator>kipusoep</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jan 2012 08:16:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Emil,

I know, but I keep monitoring ELMAH for new releases and update my custom assembly as soon as there is a new release.
I&#039;ve never created a NuGet package before. Also this is not really an umbraco related modification... So naming it Elmah for Umbraco isn&#039;t the right name anyway ;-)

I&#039;ll post a new blogpost for each new release, so if you&#039;re using this solution and want to keep yourself up-to-date just add my blog&#039;s RSS feed to a RSS reader :-)

Greets</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Emil,</p>
<p>I know, but I keep monitoring ELMAH for new releases and update my custom assembly as soon as there is a new release.<br />
I&#8217;ve never created a NuGet package before. Also this is not really an umbraco related modification&#8230; So naming it Elmah for Umbraco isn&#8217;t the right name anyway <img src='http://tech.kipusoep.nl/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I&#8217;ll post a new blogpost for each new release, so if you&#8217;re using this solution and want to keep yourself up-to-date just add my blog&#8217;s RSS feed to a RSS reader <img src='http://tech.kipusoep.nl/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Greets</p>
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		<title>Reactie op Umbraco, ELMAH (with SQL CE 4.0) and authentication door Emil Rasmussen</title>
		<link>http://tech.kipusoep.nl/2012/01/03/umbraco-elmah-with-sql-ce-4-0-and-authentication/comment-page-1/#comment-7493</link>
		<dc:creator>Emil Rasmussen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jan 2012 08:01:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi

Very nice work! But it just doesn&#039;t seems quite right to miss out on using NuGet to get updates on Elmah. What is the possibility to create a NuGet package &quot;Elmah for Umbraco&quot; - that would be really cool :-)

But great to see the Umbraco community embracing Elmah! It is a fantastic tool.

Best regards
Emil</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi</p>
<p>Very nice work! But it just doesn&#8217;t seems quite right to miss out on using NuGet to get updates on Elmah. What is the possibility to create a NuGet package &#8220;Elmah for Umbraco&#8221; &#8211; that would be really cool <img src='http://tech.kipusoep.nl/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>But great to see the Umbraco community embracing Elmah! It is a fantastic tool.</p>
<p>Best regards<br />
Emil</p>
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		<link>http://tech.kipusoep.nl/2012/01/03/umbraco-elmah-with-sql-ce-4-0-and-authentication/comment-page-1/#comment-7483</link>
		<dc:creator>Umbraco, ELMAH, MADAM and authentication &#124; kipusoep's tech blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jan 2012 09:04:56 +0000</pubDate>
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